GGF10 Workflow Research Group meeting minutes
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Date: 11th March 2004
Time: 10:35-12:00
Chair: Ewa Deelman, ISI
Recorder: Edward Walker, TACC
Location: Room 3075

  Opening chair remarks:  
    * summarised group structure.  
    * asked for any volunteers to be secretary (no volunteers came forward)
    * introduced scope and goals of the charter document

Charter discussion
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  Q. Geff Fox asked how is the group going to meet on an on going basis
  A. Thruogh workshops as well as topical focus group meetings.

  Q. Participant asked if distributed state management as pertaining to workflow management will be 
     in the charter scope.
  A. Yes

  Q. We should pay attention to what other GGF RG activities.  Track other working 
     groups, e.g. semantic grid and CGE. 
  A. This is assumed in the charter   

  Q. Should an explicit part of the charter goal to produce a standard.
  A. It is not necessarily a goal of the charter.

  Q. Someone should work on a review of current workflow systems.
  A. Gregor has started a website for this with some information already.

Charter discussion conclusion
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  All in attendance agreed on charter.

  Follow-up action items:
    * Milestones and dates should be explitley stated in the charter document to ensure that the 
      goals are met.  

    * There should be specialised workshops on relevant activities like languages, and the results 
      of the workshops should be submitted and published in some forum like a Journal. 

    * There should me a channel between the workflow RG and other groups, including the 
      grid benchmarking group (they already have a set of flows which they are using for their 
      benchmarking activities). 

BPEL in Grids - A Slomiski (see slides)
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  Q. Concern that BPEL cannot scale up for scientific applications 
  A. Noted

Andreas Hoheisel presentation of his work (see slides)
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  Q. Is the network a resource?  
  A. No

  Q. Question about the classes of petri-nets that can be executed 
  A. Only well-formed nets can be executed for now.

Teuta - Thomas (see slides)
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  Q. Do you have a discovery specification in your UML specification 
  A. No. This is not a specification for the abstract language level. 

GridAnt and Karajan - Gregor (see slides)
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  Q. Can GridAnt handle loops 
  A. Yes.

Closing remark
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  Chair encouraged participants to contribute to the discussion email list