Re: L2 Triggers Bar-BOF

From: Behcet Sarikaya (sarikayab@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Mar 12 2002 - 11:46:25 EST

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    Hello Aaron,
      As a coauthor let me suggest a correction to your
    email,
    The draft that defines an API for paging triggers is:
    http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-guri-seamoby-paging-triggers-00.txt

    while the draft:
    http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-guri-seamoby-lahap-00.txt

    used these triggers in defining an IP Paging protocol.

      Therefore I think that the reference in your BOF
    description should be changed to
    draft-guri-seamoby-triggers-00.txt.

    Regards,
    --- Aaron Falk <falk@ISI.EDU> wrote:
    > Hey-
    >
    > There's going to be a Bar-BoF in Minneapolis on
    > Layer 2 triggers which
    > might be of interest to the folks on this list. See
    > below for the
    > invitation and a (discarded) draft description for a
    > real BoF. I'm
    > including the BoF description since it's the best
    > overview I have on the
    > issues. One of the goals of the Bar-BoF will be to
    > understand L2
    > trigger applications to ensure that an IETF effort
    > (wg or bof) will have
    > an architectural approach that has the right balance
    > of minimalism and
    > specificity.
    >
    > --aaron
    >
    > On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 18:37, Carl Williams wrote:
    > > A L2 triggers pre-BOF will be held at the IETF
    > > on Monday nite at 10:00pm. We will meet
    > > at 10:00pm in front of the bulletin board near
    > > the IETF registration desk and
    > > proceed to an empty conference room.
    > >
    > > Aaron Falk (falk@ISI.edu) and myself
    > > will co-chair the pre-BOF discussion on
    > > L2 triggers. Aaron is currently co-chair
    > > of the PILC working group and we will
    > > work together in faciliating a good discussion
    > > on L2 triggers in preparation for
    > > an official BOF in Japan.
    > >
    > > There have been several L2 related internet
    > > drafts both dealing with more wireless area.
    > > We would like to get some discussion about
    > > how L2 triggers can be broadened out of being
    > > strictly a wireless related thing and be more
    > general.
    > >
    > > Please join us in this pre-BOF L2 triggers debate
    > > on Monday, March 18.
    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > >
    > > Carl and Aaron
    > > Co-chairs of L2 Triggers Pre-BOF
    > >
    > > L2 Trigger Pre-BOF
    > > 10:00pm on March 18 (Monday evening)
    > > In front of IETF bulletin board (near IETF
    > registration)
    >
    > BoF Description
    > ---------------
    >
    > Since the PILC working group was formed, an
    > additional
    > set of problems involving the interaction between
    > wireless
    > link layers and IP has emerged. These problems all
    > have in
    > common the need for timely information from the link
    > layer
    > about certain processes that are unique to wireless
    > networks,
    > and which critically impact the performance or ease
    > of implementation
    > at the IP layer. Such information has generically
    > been called L2
    > triggers.
    >
    > Specific examples of L2 triggers are information
    > required to
    > improve handover performance, particularly for real
    > time traffic,
    > and to allow IP dormant mode host alerting (a.k.a
    > paging)
    > to utilize link layer paging support. Drafts
    > discussing these
    > particular problems are
    > draft-manyfolks-mobilereq-l2-04.txt,
    > for handover, and draft-guri-seamoby-lahap-00.txt,
    > for paging.
    > Additional possible uses of L2 triggers that have
    > been
    > suggested are for MANETS and for radio QoS
    > signaling. This
    > BOF will discuss currently proposed and suggested
    > uses for L2 triggers,
    > and whether enough work in this area exists to form
    > a working
    > group.
    >
    > Possible Topics for a Working Group Charter (should
    > one be deemed
    > desirable)
    >
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > - Accept draft-manyfolks-mobilereq-l2.txt as a WG
    > draft and
    > complete to Informational RFC status.
    >
    > - Accept that part of
    > draft-guri-seamoby-lahap-00.txt dealing
    > with L2 triggers for paging and complete to
    > Informational RFC status.
    >
    > - Solicit Internet drafts on L2 triggers of MANETs,
    > in conjunction with
    > the MANET group, and radio QoS signaling, in
    > conjunction with the NSIS
    > group, for completion to Informational RFC status.
    >
    > - Develop and standardize an IP protocol for
    > handover L2 triggers
    > between bridging access points and access routers.
    > This would be for L2
    > protocols in which a wired IP access network
    > separates the access point
    > from the access router.
    >
    > - Discuss with IEEE 802.11, and any other SDO that
    > might need it, the
    > possibility of including L2 triggers in their L2
    > protocols.
    >
    > >
    >
    >

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