Re: [pilc] A question of small MTUs

From: Matt Mathis (mathis@psc.edu)
Date: Wed Nov 13 2002 - 23:46:29 EST

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    On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, William Ivancic wrote:

    > I'm not sure about the largest or smallest MTU size, but I thought it may
    > be appropriate to note some behaviors and problems we were having with MTU
    > discovery over mobile networks using mobile-IPv4 double tunnels and
    > encryption. The mobile-IPv4 mobile networking we are using applies double
    > tunnels from the home agent to the foreign agent when foreign agent service
    > is used. Adding encryption on top of that hides MTU discovery. To add to
    > the problem, somewhere the don't fragment bit is being set - perhaps in
    > some applications or at some Web servers. Thus, we manually have to set
    > the Max MTU in the hosts on the mobile LAN or set the minimum acceptable
    > MTU size at the last visible interface to the mobile LAN.

    I'm a little curious to know how you think this is supposed to work. If you
    are using any advanced TCP features (e.g. PAWS RFC1323) or IPv6 then DF becomes
    mandatory.

    I think that our algorithm will indeed solve your problem for the TCP based
    applications, although I can't tell from your message what is the MTU of the
    inner most tunnel. It sounds like 1500 - 4*tunnel_overhead. Is that correct?
    What was the actual size?

    Thanks,
    --MM--
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