RE: Re IP over Satellite

From: Marie-Jose Montpetit ([email protected])
Date: Tue Jun 16 1998 - 12:56:37 EDT


Let's cut the flame! I think I was the one mentioning the 125 ms at a
recent NASA Workshop. Let me explain:

The 125 ms was not quoted to show that TCP as a protocol does not work
over GEOs, I know better than this. 125 ms is the number that is quoted
by the Automotive Network Exchange as a Service Level Agreement for
certifying their service providers, it is a Quality of Service issue.
Other providers (AT&T, UUNET etc.) also have 100-150 ms latency
agreements. It is not LEO propaganda, it is a terrestrial network issue.

Marie-Jose

        -----Original Message-----
        From: osama qadan [SMTP:[email protected]]
        Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 9:42 AM
        To: [email protected]; [email protected];
[email protected]
        Subject: re: Re IP over Satellite

        This is a false propaganda against GEO's. It has been
demonstrated over and
        over again that TCP/IP works over satellite without any kind of
problems
        which can't be fixed by tunning the protocol parameters. Even
without such
        adjustments, the performance is good enough to deny such false
accusations.
        Actually last year, we have demonstrated here in INTELSAT during
the
        Internet summit held here that TCP/IP works over satellite, and
we have
        drafted several documents supporting that.
        If anyone has anything againt GEO's, then they should present
their case
        scietifically, rather than "gossiping" about it (!!!)

        -----------
        Osama Qadan,Engineer
        Internet Services Over Satellite Group
        International Satellites Organization (INTELSAT)
        Tel: (202) 944-7328 // Fax: (202) 944-7644
        Internet: [email protected]
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        Original Text
        From BORDER@SMTPGATE (John Border) {[email protected]}, on 6/16/98
12:14 PM:
        To: TCPPEP@SMTPGATE {[email protected]}, TCP-OVER@SMTPGATE
        {[email protected]}

            This is really sketchy. I am basically fishing here. I
didn't find
        anything at the IETF web site...

            My management has heard (nth-hand) that there is some kind
of statement
        or
        draft associated with the IETF that says that either IP or TCP
will not work
        over satellite links with delays longer than 125 milliseconds.
Has anyone
        heard of this or is aware of where this may have come from? It
sounds like
        propaganda from LEO proponents but if there is any technical
merit behind
        such
        an assertion I definately want to see it...

        John Border
        Hughes Network Systems
        [email protected]



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