RE: IP over Satellite Questions/References

From: Falk, Aaron ([email protected])
Date: Tue Jun 06 2000 - 09:05:31 EDT

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    Chris-

    > - IP/MPEG/DVB? So are IP packets carried in the MPE
    > capabilities of MPEG
    > for transmission over DVB systems?

    Yes.

    >
    > - What about special satellite-specific link layers? Are MPEG frames
    > carried inside these L2 protocols?

    The one I'm familliar with (HNS) is an alternative to MPEG/DVB rather than
    just DVB. So, IP goes directly into their link layer. So, no MPEG.

    >
    > - How is the satellite uplink for a bidirectional system done?

    The primary difference is that the RF electronics has the capacity to
    transmit rather than just receive. This increases the user equipment cost
    significantly since the transmission tube is the most expensive part of a
    VSAT terminal (and a receive-only terminal doesn't need one). In the
    simplest form, you could do PPP over a fixed bandwidth RF link. Most
    services do (& will) use something more sophisticated since (a) the duty
    cycle for a single terminal is usually low and (b) satellite bandwidth is
    expensive. The operators want to share the bandwidth across as many users as
    possible (while still providing acceptable service).

    > I am
    > familiar with the DirecPC approach of using a terrestrial
    > (dial, ISDN)
    > uplink from the home. Is the bandwidth symmetrical or asymmetrical?

    Since most of these systems are designed for web access, the bandwidth will
    almost always be asymmetrical. But in some designs, particularly the Ka-band
    systems in development, that's a matter of provisioning rather than the
    architecture. Meaning that if you had a user that needed symmetric access
    (or, rather, was willing to pay for it), you could set up channels with the
    same rates in both directions. Nevertheless, the majority of these systems
    are designed expecting that most users will want to consume more data than
    they generate.

    >
    > - How much bandwidth is possible? I see that DirecPC
    > advertises 400Kb. What
    > are the issues that affect how much bandwidth one can use?
    >

    Sharing satellite bandwidth is a zero-sum game. If your transponder can
    handle 45Mbps (a typical value), you can share that across all the users you
    want but it has to add up to 45Mbps. If you've ever studied communications
    channels, you know you can trade channel utilization (percentage of time
    that the channel is not idle) for data delay. In other words, you make users
    wait in queues so they can transmit at the most convenient time. However, if
    you make them wait too long, they get annoyed. There can be significant
    overhead in these channel sharing (DAMA, Bandwidth on Demand) schemes since
    you have to tell users when to transmit.

    > Any conferences/tutorials/whitepapers/books that people can
    > recommend to
    > learn about this stuff?

    Lots of conferences:
      -) University of Maryland has an annual Internet over satellite conference

         (I couldn't find a URL)
      -) The annual Ka-utilization conference talks about new Ka-band (duplex)
    systems
      -) MOBICOM
      -) 'Internet Via Satellite,' marketing oriented but useful if you want to
    find
         out what people are doing,
    http://www.actconferences.com/Satv4/index.htm
      -) IEEE Communication Society usually has some sessions at ICC,
         http://www.icc00.org/technic/pglance.htm

      ...Hopefully, folks on the mail list can contribute additional ones.

    Hope this helps,

    --aaron

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    PanAmSat Corporation
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