RE: Moving Targets

From: Smith JR, Harry E ([email protected])
Date: Tue Oct 03 2000 - 17:31:34 EDT

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    Agree that the cellphone hands off with no problem using because of a
    coordination between the BST and MST via terrestial lines. I am not sure
    that this is possible for LEO unless you have satellite cross links.

    The power advantage may be offset by the complexity of the terminal antenna
    system. In a cell phone terminal the antenna is omni, for a leo a
    directional is needed. This means either a fast tracking antenna and
    aquistion or two tracking antennae.

    As for the cost, the advantage is eaten by the additional satellites needed
    to allow continuos coverage. I think that is a wash.

    Harry

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Peter Sterling [SMTP:[email protected]]
    > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 12:22 PM
    > To: Smith JR, Harry E
    > Cc: [email protected]
    > Subject: Re: Moving Targets
    >
    > Harry
    >
    > The thing that killed Teledesic was a company called Motorola and a
    > grossly
    > overpriced, no-bandwidth project called Iridium.
    >
    > Your cell phone hands-off as you move around with no problem and a LEO
    > system can do the same with no technical problems.
    >
    > The LEO satellite is in view of any one spot for around 10 minutes so the
    > hand-off issue is probably less than for a terrestrial system. The
    > primary
    > advantage of LEO is the lower power requirements to connect, hence smaller
    > antenna possibilities. Also it costs one quarter the price per lb to put a
    > satellite into LEO than GEO. Add the power advantage to the cost advantage
    > and a global broadband LEO system can give 400% increase in available
    > bandwidth per $ over a global GEO system, and there's no 1/4 second delay
    > associated with LEO.
    >
    > Despite what the GEO crowd believes, because of the latency issue, power
    > and
    > LEO cost advantage, its probable that ten years from now LEO systems will
    > make up half of the satcom market.
    >
    > Teledesic currently has a GEO-Type fixed LEO architecture with stupendous
    > capital costs and high technical risks, which indicate that it may not be
    > built in its current form.
    >
    > Peter Sterling
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Smith JR, Harry E <[email protected]>
    > To: Sat TCP mail list <[email protected]>
    > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:49 AM
    > Subject: Moving Targets
    >
    >
    > >
    > > I am not sure that LEO are a good answer. Have you thought about how
    > many
    > > satellites you will need. I would guess around 5 or 6 in the orbit
    > trace.
    > > The second problem will be the handover of the data between the
    > satellites.
    > > ( I think this was one of the things that killed Teledisc)
    > >
    > > This means either cross links or a single hub that all satellites can
    > see
    > > and the routing is on the ground. A third concern would be that
    > > utilization. Most of the time they would not be over Australia.
    > >
    > > A better idea would be a set of towers along the route like 3rd
    > generation
    > > mobile system. While the standards only give 2Mbps for fixed station
    > unless
    > > you are talking about a bullet train, I think they could be considered
    > as
    > > stationary. It will take a little thought.
    > >
    > > Depending on the services offered, you might be able to use part of a
    > GEO
    > > transponder to feed the 3rd Gen Mobile from a single access point.
    > >
    > > Harry Smith
    > > Lockheed Martin Mission and Data Services
    > > 408 - 473 6491
    > >
    > >
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    > > Harry Smith
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    > >
    > >
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