Re: AW: Moving Targets

From: John Bourke ([email protected])
Date: Wed Oct 04 2000 - 12:03:30 EDT

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    Folks,

    Internet over DVB forward path with a stabilised antenna.

    Inmarsat return path via Inmarsat Packet Data with a stabilised antenna.
    Pay per Mbyte on this.

    That's 6-8 Mbits shared forward ( across all trains ) and 64Kbits return per
    train.

    john

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Charlie Younghusband" <[email protected]>
    To: "Andreas Timm-Giel" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
    Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:26 PM
    Subject: Re: AW: Moving Targets

    > At $7 US/minute @ 64kbps, that's $420 /hr @ 64kbps or 6720 US $ / hr @
    1Mbps.
    > Plus hw & ISP costs for down under. Yikes. Your research project could
    end
    > pretty quickly with an Inmarsat type solution.
    >
    > Want a real research project? Find a way to send the signal through the
    train
    > tracks. ;) Only way to really fix the tunnel problem!
    >
    > Seriously though, I'd talk to some of the wireless providers in Australia.
    > Australia is quite advanced at digital wireless services, they might be
    all over
    > an additional excuse to expand their east coast network where most Aussie
    cities
    > are anyway.
    >
    > Charlie
    >
    > Also note that a 1Mbps downstream and a 56 upstream probably isn't a good
    > matchup (an offhand guess); even if you're doing 100% downloading of
    files, your
    > upstream bandwidth could quickly become the bottleneck just with ACKs
    assuming
    > normal windows TCP/IP. Something closer to a 10 to 1 ratio might be more
    > appropriate. Check some of the litterature regarding assymetry and
    TCP/IP.
    >
    >
    >
    > Andreas Timm-Giel wrote:
    > Second problem for L- and
    >
    > > S-band systems will be the prices for capacity on satellites (just as a
    > > reference: Inmarsat takes around US$ 7 / min for a 64 kbit/s link)
    >
    > > >
    > > > Hi,
    > > >
    > > > I'm doing a research project about providing Internet access to moving
    > > > targets on the eastern seabord of Australia. In this case, the moving
    > > > targets are trains.
    > > >
    > > > We really need to provide around 1MB or so downstream, maybe 56k or so
    > > > uplink. I've been doing a lot of searching but facts seem to be hard
    > > > to come by.
    > > >--
    >
    > Charlie Younghusband
    > Network Systems Engineering
    > Xiphos Technologies http://www.xiphos.ca/
    > 514-848-9640 (f) 514-848-9644
    >
    >
    >



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