RE: Moving Targets

From: Sing Lin ([email protected])
Date: Thu Oct 12 2000 - 09:00:18 EDT

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    Abheek:

    In addition to the 70 GHz band allocation for HAPS, the proponent of HAPS
    also proposed HAPS for the 2GHz band allocated for the 3G IMT-2000 wireless
    systems. Substantial work have been done on the frequency coordination
    criteria and coordination distance to make sure that HAPS and terrestrial
    and satellite based 3G IMT-2000 wireless systems will not interfer with each
    other. Therefore, under suitable conditions, HAPS may operate in the 2 GHz
    IMT-2000 bands.

    Sing Lin

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
    Behalf Of [email protected]
    Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:52 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Moving Targets

    Sing Lin,

    I seem to remember that the HAPS platform have to use frequencies in the
    80Ghz range because they are classified as stratospheric devices. Wasn't
    skystation (the constellation floated by Gen. Haig) based on HAPS platforms?
    Any pointers on how hard it is to build terminals at those frequencies? What
    happens to rain-fade and stuff like that?

    -Very best regards,
    Abheek

    "Sing Lin]" <[email protected]> on 10/09/2000 08:33:55 PM

    To: Abheek Saha/HSS@HSS, [email protected]
    cc:

    Subject: RE: Moving Targets

    Shaun:

    USA, Japan and Europe have been doing substantial R&D on High Altitude
    Platform Station (HAPS) in recent few years. The technical contributions
    from these R&D sources to ITU-R WP8F/TG8/1 in the last two years have
    resulted in a Preliminary Draft New Recommendation (PDNR) and a Draft
    Handbook on HAPS in ITU-R WP8F working on the Third Generation (3G) wireless
    technologies and beyond. Therefore, HAPS is a serious project and technology
    to consider. Each platform is at about 21 Km above the ground and can cover
    a very large area.

    Sing Lin

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On
    Behalf Of [email protected]
    Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:46 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: Moving Targets

    How about a small constellation of satellites in a highly inclined orbit
    (HEO?).
    Should
    be much cheaper than a LEO constellation though more difficult to manage. I
    understand
    the Russians use these pretty effectively.

    -Abheek

    "Dani I. Widjanarko" <[email protected]> on 10/03/2000 05:33:57 AM

    Please respond to "Dani I. Widjanarko" <[email protected]>

    To: [email protected]
    cc: (bcc: Abheek Saha/HSS)

    Subject: Re: Moving Targets

    I don't think that LEO is a good solution, may be you can try to use HAPS
    (High Altitude Platform System) that now being explored by many countries.

    -dani-

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
    Date: 03 Oktober 2000 2:50
    Subject: Moving Targets

    >Hi,
    >
    >I'm doing a research project about providing Internet access to moving
    >targets on the eastern seabord of Australia. In this case, the moving
    >targets are trains.
    >
    >We really need to provide around 1MB or so downstream, maybe 56k or so
    >uplink. I've been doing a lot of searching but facts seem to be hard
    >to come by.
    >
    >By my reckoning something like a link to an LEO constellation is
    >needed to make this work because:
    > - GEO satellites can't easily provide this type of bandwidth
    > - GEO satellites require reasonably large dishes and need to
    >fairly precisely targetted at the sat
    > - Line of sight is needed for GEO links to work
    >
    >Basically, I'm hoping that with LEO links a dish won't even be
    >required, some sort of antenna? Do any of the currently existing LEO
    >constellations provide this sort of service? Future ones?
    >
    >Am I completely barking up the wrong tree here? Is there a better way
    >of providing reasonably high speed internet access to moving vehicles
    >without cabling etc.
    >
    >Thanks in advance,
    >Shaun
    >



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